As we each focus on our recovery *WE* the individual, bring to bear scripture as we choose to apply it to our own life.

We do not give advice to others nor preach at them nor act like we are forming ADVICE for them.

This is the difference between a real 12 step group and a CHURCHIAN 12 step group. Because the church doesnt get it that a person in recovery is responsible for their own relationship with God.

I am very umcomfortable with baptists because they do nit understand that THEY are not ME and I am not THEM and its ne and the Holy Spirit and not THEM and ME and The Holy Spirit together.

They want to turn everything into DOCTRINE.

Well, its not a doctrine that my parents screwed up and screwed me up.

And that because of that I have no idea what the hell I am doing in life, and 40+ years of baptist doctrine didnt fix my parents and didnt fix me.

And if I am going to listen to God I need to just shine on all their doctrine stuff.

They, BTW, dont believe what ACA talks about anyway.

So I take what I can and I leave the rest.

And I am leaving the baptist stuff behind.

There isn’t any power within, that is, innate power. There is only His Power, what He loans you as your percieved innate power plus what booster power He performs on your behalf if you wait upon Him in obedience. That latter is the only power worth pursuing – His Blessing. The rest, being of the secular world and not the transcendent, fades and rusts with time and wear.

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That’s an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Well, because that’s the way they built them in England, and English engineers designed the first US railroads. Why did the English build them like that? Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the wagon tramways, and that’s the gauge they used. So, why did ‘they’ use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they had used for building wagons, which used that same wheel spacing. Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break more often on some of the old, long distance roads in England . You see, that’s the spacing of the wheel ruts. So who built those old rutted roads? Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (including England ) for their legions. Those roads have been used ever since. And what about the ruts in the roads? Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else had to match or run the risk of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot. Bureaucracies live forever. So the next time you are handed a specification/procedure/process and wonder ‘What horse’s as came up with this?’, you may be exactly right. Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the rear ends of two war horses. (Two horses’ ases.) Now, the twist to the story: When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah . The engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains, and the SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses’ behinds. So, a major Space Shuttle design feature, of what is arguably the world’s most advanced transportation system, was determined over two thousand years ago by the width of a horse’s as. And you thought being a horse’s as wasn’t important? Ancient horse’s as*es control almost everything.

Ok, this showed up on my phone. How odd.