As we each focus on our recovery *WE* the individual, bring to bear scripture as we choose to apply it to our own life.

We do not give advice to others nor preach at them nor act like we are forming ADVICE for them.

This is the difference between a real 12 step group and a CHURCHIAN 12 step group. Because the church doesnt get it that a person in recovery is responsible for their own relationship with God.

I am very umcomfortable with baptists because they do nit understand that THEY are not ME and I am not THEM and its ne and the Holy Spirit and not THEM and ME and The Holy Spirit together.

They want to turn everything into DOCTRINE.

Well, its not a doctrine that my parents screwed up and screwed me up.

And that because of that I have no idea what the hell I am doing in life, and 40+ years of baptist doctrine didnt fix my parents and didnt fix me.

And if I am going to listen to God I need to just shine on all their doctrine stuff.

They, BTW, dont believe what ACA talks about anyway.

So I take what I can and I leave the rest.

And I am leaving the baptist stuff behind.